Would you consider yourself a Bolshevik? Would you be willing to do an article on the Bolshevik Revolution and how it pertains to Nationalism? As someone who leans more NatSoc, I'm interested in the reasons for NazBol ideology and the admiration of figures like Lenin and Stalin
Yes I would, and do, consider myself a bolshevik., and on the article, I actually have one I have been working on but haven’t published yet. if there is an appetite for such a thing I’d be happy to post it. the best resource for such a thing is actually ARPLAN, the german association for the study of Russian planned economics. it included Ernst Niekiesch( the original National Bolshevik), Ernst Junger ( I am sure you have heard of “storm of steel” and his theories on a modern warrior ideology, like a industrial German Bushido) and Karl Schmitt ( of the NSDAP) Niekiesch especially was enthralled with the Soviet Union, and Niekisch saw the USSR as everything Germany needed to become:
Anti-liberal
Anti-capitalist
Culturally revolutionary
Militarized, disciplined, collective
National Bolshevism, primarily saw the Anglo-french west as their ultimate enemy and believed a German-Russian alliance would dominate the world.
and to be fair, such a thing was long feared, preventing Germany and Russia from forming a single bloc was the ultimate focus of British foreign policy from the 1880s up until 1945
ah I also got a couple Goebbels quotes you might find interesting :
You praise Russia as the country of international solidarity and admit yourself that today Russia is more Russian than ever. What you call Bolshevist internationalism is Pan-Slavism in its clearest and most pronounced form… Russia, Russian Bolshevism, are not about to collapse. But the Soviet Union does not endure because it is Bolshevik , because it is Marxist , because it is international, it shall endure because it is national, because it is Russia. No Tsar ever grasped the Russian people in its depths, in its passion, in its national instincts as Lenin did. He gave the Russian peasants what Bolshevism always meant to the freedom and property . In this way he made the most indigenous group, the peasants, into the real supporters of the new system. The more the Russian peasants hates the Jew, especially the Soviet Jew, the more passionately he is a follower of agrarian reform, the more ardently does he love his country, his land and his soil. 'Down with the Jewish Soviets, long live the Leninist agrarian reform!'
National Socialism or Bolshevism? ( National Socialism or Bolshevism ), open letter to “My Friends on the Left,” National Socialist Letters (Oct. 15, 1925)
Thanks for the information, why do you think that some of the National Socialists were opposed to Bolshevism? Why did Hitler view the Soviet Union as a threat? I've heard it a lot repeated in wignat circles that Hitler was fighting against communism, yet he was close with men like Goebbels who, as you pointed out, had sympathies for the Soviet Union.
There were 2 wings of the National Socialist party, the left wing and the right wing. the right wing of the party was more interested in volkisch politics, less so with economics, and when the night of long knives happened, it was simply a purge of the left wing of the NSDAP, including the most powerful left-wing Nazi, Rohm. in the background it was a compromise between Hitler and the conservatives. German conservatives, HATED Rohm, on a personal level. and he hated them as well, and as the Number 2 in the party and Hitler’s closest partner (he was the only one Hitler allowed to call him “Addie” after he assumed the office of chancellor) he was accumulating immense power in the early days of NSDAP rule, and was publicly demanding that the police forces and the armed forces be eliminated and replaced with the SA, as a red army style “people’s army”, and that he (Rohm) have command over both police and military. After his outbursts, demanding control of the military and police, German conservatives went to Hitler and agreed to play ball and give him whatever he wants as long as he gets rid of Rohm.
After that, Hatred of Bolshevism, became strategic. for like 1936-1938 the Nazis were trying to create an anti-communist bloc that would include such states as Poland. after Poland refused to join the anti-comintern, the Nazis went to the Soviets for their secret agreement, and from 1939-1941, they stopped producing anti-communist propaganda. in that era all the nazi articles, billboards, posters, speeches, switch from blaming communists, to attacking the west/England/France. its remarkable how quickly they did this. at the same time, in france the Uk and US, Communist parties had opposed appeasement and pushed for war, but after molotov-ribbontrop was signed, all the western communist parties were ordered to start marching and protesting for peace, trying to encourage their governments to surrender or seek peace through another means with Germany. it wasn’t until after the start of operation barbarossa, that the communists and Fascists again started attacking each other.
Hitler in fact, was in Politics before he joined the NSDAP. during the Bavarian Soviet Republic, led by Niekisch (the first nazbol) Hitler joined the Bavarian Soviet Government, he served as a representative on a Soldiers Soviet Council, but then later white washed this period.
the reality is, it wasn’t ideological. it was about land. he had been influenced by Karl Schmitt, who had a theory for Germany based on American “manifest destiny”. this gets into early 4th positionism, Sea-power vs Land-power and Atlanticism vs Continentalism, and its related to early Eurasianism with ideas of a united Eurasia Ruled by Germany. In fact Russian Eurasianism is almost a mirror image, it simply replaced Germany with Russia as the dominant power in the “european big space”. This is reflected in such Nazbol texts as “Europe : an Empire”, “Imperium”, or “An Empire from Lisbon to Vladivostok” by Yockey, Thiriart, and Post war Oswald Moseley (who abandoned fascism and British nationalism, and started a pan-European Nationalist party with Nazbol, Thiriart)
Thanks for the info once again, this is truly fascinating as I was unaware of this, I'll start to read the literature you recommend in order to get a more complete understanding of this. So it wasn't really ideological but more of a conflict with lebensraum? Would you say Hitler was justified in his reclaiming of lost German territory? Such as what they had lost during the treaty of Versailles? What a world it would have been if the USSR and Germany had remained allies. One thing I don't like about the soviets is the rape of germany after her fall. Hellstorm really put it into perspective. Aside from that many of their economic policies make sense.
I also have to ask (if you dont mind) were you at one time NatSoc? If so why did you change to Bolshevism?
I do think Germany was justified in retaking Silesia, and East Prussia, and possibly even the sudetenland.
I understand the stuff about the red army and rape, it bothers me too. however, you gotta put it in context. 27 million Russians died during the German invasion. around 2 million German women were raped during the first 3 months of soviet occupation. but over 10 million soviet women were raped during the german occupation of Russia by german forces ! the germans created brothels on the frontline for their troops, and forced the local russian women to work there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II#Eastern_Europe. In Poland they were kidnapping women, even teenage girls to take to the eastern front and force to work in the brothels. nearly 40% of the population of Belarus was executed by German forces. The Germans had this guy, Dirlewanger that they put in charge of Belarus, he was a convicted pedophilic rapist, convicted IN GERMANY, before the war started, for raping children. The nazis took him, made him a colonel and gave him an entire brigade, made up of rapists, pedophiles, and serial killers, and gave them absolute power over Belarus. they committed 5,000 massacres, not counting mass rape, torture, skinning people alive. the soviet troops who entered germany ? they are the sons, fathers husbands, and brothers of the 28 million Russians murdered and 10 million russian women raped. and despite the losses, and the suffering, and the horror, they only killed 800,000 German civilians during their invasion of Germany, the US and UK with the firebombings killed 1.5 million german civilians.
and yes, I did used to be Natsoc. its sorta complicated, I got in trouble for my politics in the US, I was in the NSM and bros in the NSM tried to set me up, they lied for the fbi on a statement giving them what they needed to get a magistrate to sign search warrants of my work, my dads house, and my moms house, and they held me in jail without charges for 120 days while they sent samples of dust and shit from my house and my moms house to the lab to test for bomb residue. then they leaked my shit to antifa, today there are antifa accounts that do nothing but follow my every move. I was fired, raided, my life destroyed. so I took off for europe, while there I met a girl from Belarus, and after she left I went to Belarus to look for her, and ended up marrying her in Belarus.
Belarus is a 99.9% White country, its masculine, its got statues celebrating soldiers and warriors and mothers everywhere, very militant. theres no gay shit, no trannies, jews are not in charge, in fact, the government changed the history textbooks and removed Jews from any mention of ww2. its illegal in Belarus to say the Nazis were going after Jews. officially the only victims of fascism are slavic people. not jews, not gypsies, not gays.
So I found this super based country, and everybody who believes in the same type of shit I did as a natsoc, well there they call themselves communists.
amd I looked around at Belarusian society. its super safe, its clean, theres no migrants like in western Europe. they pay women to have kids. nobody dies of fucked up illnesses without getting treatment because healthcare is guaranteed to everyone. the economy is set up not to make rich people richer, but to make sure every person has a job. theres no homeless because housing is guaranteed. and nobody is forced to worship niggers. For me, it was the most perfect country I have ever been to.... and its communist. so how can I hate it ?
so I started doing research, and I discovered that "right wing" or nationalistic communists throughout the last 100 years were literally everywhere. I discovered that right after the end of ww2, when faced with the US system or the Soviet, most ex-nazis decided to side with the Soviets, like General Remer, leader of the post war nazi party. Or Francis Parker Yockey.
I discovered all the foundations of modern White power and Neo-nazism, are either nazbol pro-soviet communist nationalists, or George Lincoln Rockwell type racist liberals. Thiriart, Alain De Benoist, Yockey, Degrelle, they all sided with the soviets and decided that western liberalism is worse, and more racially destructive then communism.
I discovered that South Africa, in 1922, had a rebellion of White miners, to create a White supremacist society and prevent england from firing all the white miners and replacing them with blacks. and it was lead by the south african communist party, the leader of which, Bill Andrews, was a dedicated White nationalist and racialist, and their slogan was "workers of the world unite, for a white south africa".
I discovered that in 1993, as the soviet union was falling, communists, nationalists, monarchists and several neo nazi groups in russia came together and created a single party, the national salvation front, that would try to keep the soviet union from collapsing, would support pan-slavic ultranationalism, would embrace extreme right social policies, and far left economics, and would be led by a red army general who called himself a "Nationalist-communist".
Then I discovered, that the origins of Nazism and fascism.... are in Marxism, that marxists created fascism and nazism, as more nationalistic forms of communism.
And then I discovered, that everything I hate, the gross nigger loving liberal woke shit.... communists did not create it, and that "cultural marxism" is just made up bullshit. what we call woke, or cultural marxism, was created by a group of jews that fled germany and moved to the USA, who HATED Stalin, and hated the Soviet Union, and that they were pushed into prominence, not by the soviets as part of a plot to destroy "the west" as I always believed.... but by the CIA, which wanted to neutralize western communists and make it impossible for them to align with the soviet union. https://www.thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-the-frankfurt-schools-anti-communism/
and that instead, the soviets considered "western communists" to be anti-communist, and began supporting far right movements all over Europe because left wing movements were considered useless. and that today, Russia still funds all the major far right groups.
So you see, everything I ever wanted, the communists did it, and of it became impossible for me to hate them
Wow, I was not aware of all of this information. Firstly, sorry that you had to go through that with the NSM. When your own brothers turn on you, and furthermore give info to the enemy. That is treacherous, utter betrayal. It's very upsetting that so many in the movement do this, its like they have no conscience or integrity. Harold Covington summed it up best when he talked about the character issue, it's a real problem.
I also want to add that I was unaware that Germans raped soviets, I thought it was banned by the Reich. This is upsetting, and I want to add that its wrong no matter which side does it, I was unaware that happened and that is evil. I thought the Reich had ore honor than that. That is quite blackpilling to be honest.
Do you think the Holocaust is exaggerated? Or completely wrong? I've seen good arguments by revisionists and I'm of the opinion that it wasn't 6 million. Despite that, it doesn't mean that the NatSoc's didn't do bad things, like what you mentioned.
Do you think Hitler was overall honorable in his actions? Did he condemn what some of his own men were doing?
It's interesting that the South African Communist party was once led by a pro-White man, I did not know this. As now it is completely anti-White with the 'kill the boer' chants from the niggers.
Belarus sounds like a beautiful country, its good that they are against the modern woke libtard system.
This is a very well written article, its made me take some things into consideration. I appreciate the scholarship.
Would you consider yourself a Bolshevik? Would you be willing to do an article on the Bolshevik Revolution and how it pertains to Nationalism? As someone who leans more NatSoc, I'm interested in the reasons for NazBol ideology and the admiration of figures like Lenin and Stalin
Yes I would, and do, consider myself a bolshevik., and on the article, I actually have one I have been working on but haven’t published yet. if there is an appetite for such a thing I’d be happy to post it. the best resource for such a thing is actually ARPLAN, the german association for the study of Russian planned economics. it included Ernst Niekiesch( the original National Bolshevik), Ernst Junger ( I am sure you have heard of “storm of steel” and his theories on a modern warrior ideology, like a industrial German Bushido) and Karl Schmitt ( of the NSDAP) Niekiesch especially was enthralled with the Soviet Union, and Niekisch saw the USSR as everything Germany needed to become:
Anti-liberal
Anti-capitalist
Culturally revolutionary
Militarized, disciplined, collective
National Bolshevism, primarily saw the Anglo-french west as their ultimate enemy and believed a German-Russian alliance would dominate the world.
and to be fair, such a thing was long feared, preventing Germany and Russia from forming a single bloc was the ultimate focus of British foreign policy from the 1880s up until 1945
ah I also got a couple Goebbels quotes you might find interesting :
You praise Russia as the country of international solidarity and admit yourself that today Russia is more Russian than ever. What you call Bolshevist internationalism is Pan-Slavism in its clearest and most pronounced form… Russia, Russian Bolshevism, are not about to collapse. But the Soviet Union does not endure because it is Bolshevik , because it is Marxist , because it is international, it shall endure because it is national, because it is Russia. No Tsar ever grasped the Russian people in its depths, in its passion, in its national instincts as Lenin did. He gave the Russian peasants what Bolshevism always meant to the freedom and property . In this way he made the most indigenous group, the peasants, into the real supporters of the new system. The more the Russian peasants hates the Jew, especially the Soviet Jew, the more passionately he is a follower of agrarian reform, the more ardently does he love his country, his land and his soil. 'Down with the Jewish Soviets, long live the Leninist agrarian reform!'
National Socialism or Bolshevism? ( National Socialism or Bolshevism ), open letter to “My Friends on the Left,” National Socialist Letters (Oct. 15, 1925)
Thanks for the information, why do you think that some of the National Socialists were opposed to Bolshevism? Why did Hitler view the Soviet Union as a threat? I've heard it a lot repeated in wignat circles that Hitler was fighting against communism, yet he was close with men like Goebbels who, as you pointed out, had sympathies for the Soviet Union.
There were 2 wings of the National Socialist party, the left wing and the right wing. the right wing of the party was more interested in volkisch politics, less so with economics, and when the night of long knives happened, it was simply a purge of the left wing of the NSDAP, including the most powerful left-wing Nazi, Rohm. in the background it was a compromise between Hitler and the conservatives. German conservatives, HATED Rohm, on a personal level. and he hated them as well, and as the Number 2 in the party and Hitler’s closest partner (he was the only one Hitler allowed to call him “Addie” after he assumed the office of chancellor) he was accumulating immense power in the early days of NSDAP rule, and was publicly demanding that the police forces and the armed forces be eliminated and replaced with the SA, as a red army style “people’s army”, and that he (Rohm) have command over both police and military. After his outbursts, demanding control of the military and police, German conservatives went to Hitler and agreed to play ball and give him whatever he wants as long as he gets rid of Rohm.
After that, Hatred of Bolshevism, became strategic. for like 1936-1938 the Nazis were trying to create an anti-communist bloc that would include such states as Poland. after Poland refused to join the anti-comintern, the Nazis went to the Soviets for their secret agreement, and from 1939-1941, they stopped producing anti-communist propaganda. in that era all the nazi articles, billboards, posters, speeches, switch from blaming communists, to attacking the west/England/France. its remarkable how quickly they did this. at the same time, in france the Uk and US, Communist parties had opposed appeasement and pushed for war, but after molotov-ribbontrop was signed, all the western communist parties were ordered to start marching and protesting for peace, trying to encourage their governments to surrender or seek peace through another means with Germany. it wasn’t until after the start of operation barbarossa, that the communists and Fascists again started attacking each other.
Hitler in fact, was in Politics before he joined the NSDAP. during the Bavarian Soviet Republic, led by Niekisch (the first nazbol) Hitler joined the Bavarian Soviet Government, he served as a representative on a Soldiers Soviet Council, but then later white washed this period.
the reality is, it wasn’t ideological. it was about land. he had been influenced by Karl Schmitt, who had a theory for Germany based on American “manifest destiny”. this gets into early 4th positionism, Sea-power vs Land-power and Atlanticism vs Continentalism, and its related to early Eurasianism with ideas of a united Eurasia Ruled by Germany. In fact Russian Eurasianism is almost a mirror image, it simply replaced Germany with Russia as the dominant power in the “european big space”. This is reflected in such Nazbol texts as “Europe : an Empire”, “Imperium”, or “An Empire from Lisbon to Vladivostok” by Yockey, Thiriart, and Post war Oswald Moseley (who abandoned fascism and British nationalism, and started a pan-European Nationalist party with Nazbol, Thiriart)
Thanks for the info once again, this is truly fascinating as I was unaware of this, I'll start to read the literature you recommend in order to get a more complete understanding of this. So it wasn't really ideological but more of a conflict with lebensraum? Would you say Hitler was justified in his reclaiming of lost German territory? Such as what they had lost during the treaty of Versailles? What a world it would have been if the USSR and Germany had remained allies. One thing I don't like about the soviets is the rape of germany after her fall. Hellstorm really put it into perspective. Aside from that many of their economic policies make sense.
I also have to ask (if you dont mind) were you at one time NatSoc? If so why did you change to Bolshevism?
I do think Germany was justified in retaking Silesia, and East Prussia, and possibly even the sudetenland.
I understand the stuff about the red army and rape, it bothers me too. however, you gotta put it in context. 27 million Russians died during the German invasion. around 2 million German women were raped during the first 3 months of soviet occupation. but over 10 million soviet women were raped during the german occupation of Russia by german forces ! the germans created brothels on the frontline for their troops, and forced the local russian women to work there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_military_brothels_in_World_War_II#Eastern_Europe. In Poland they were kidnapping women, even teenage girls to take to the eastern front and force to work in the brothels. nearly 40% of the population of Belarus was executed by German forces. The Germans had this guy, Dirlewanger that they put in charge of Belarus, he was a convicted pedophilic rapist, convicted IN GERMANY, before the war started, for raping children. The nazis took him, made him a colonel and gave him an entire brigade, made up of rapists, pedophiles, and serial killers, and gave them absolute power over Belarus. they committed 5,000 massacres, not counting mass rape, torture, skinning people alive. the soviet troops who entered germany ? they are the sons, fathers husbands, and brothers of the 28 million Russians murdered and 10 million russian women raped. and despite the losses, and the suffering, and the horror, they only killed 800,000 German civilians during their invasion of Germany, the US and UK with the firebombings killed 1.5 million german civilians.
and yes, I did used to be Natsoc. its sorta complicated, I got in trouble for my politics in the US, I was in the NSM and bros in the NSM tried to set me up, they lied for the fbi on a statement giving them what they needed to get a magistrate to sign search warrants of my work, my dads house, and my moms house, and they held me in jail without charges for 120 days while they sent samples of dust and shit from my house and my moms house to the lab to test for bomb residue. then they leaked my shit to antifa, today there are antifa accounts that do nothing but follow my every move. I was fired, raided, my life destroyed. so I took off for europe, while there I met a girl from Belarus, and after she left I went to Belarus to look for her, and ended up marrying her in Belarus.
Belarus is a 99.9% White country, its masculine, its got statues celebrating soldiers and warriors and mothers everywhere, very militant. theres no gay shit, no trannies, jews are not in charge, in fact, the government changed the history textbooks and removed Jews from any mention of ww2. its illegal in Belarus to say the Nazis were going after Jews. officially the only victims of fascism are slavic people. not jews, not gypsies, not gays.
So I found this super based country, and everybody who believes in the same type of shit I did as a natsoc, well there they call themselves communists.
amd I looked around at Belarusian society. its super safe, its clean, theres no migrants like in western Europe. they pay women to have kids. nobody dies of fucked up illnesses without getting treatment because healthcare is guaranteed to everyone. the economy is set up not to make rich people richer, but to make sure every person has a job. theres no homeless because housing is guaranteed. and nobody is forced to worship niggers. For me, it was the most perfect country I have ever been to.... and its communist. so how can I hate it ?
so I started doing research, and I discovered that "right wing" or nationalistic communists throughout the last 100 years were literally everywhere. I discovered that right after the end of ww2, when faced with the US system or the Soviet, most ex-nazis decided to side with the Soviets, like General Remer, leader of the post war nazi party. Or Francis Parker Yockey.
I discovered all the foundations of modern White power and Neo-nazism, are either nazbol pro-soviet communist nationalists, or George Lincoln Rockwell type racist liberals. Thiriart, Alain De Benoist, Yockey, Degrelle, they all sided with the soviets and decided that western liberalism is worse, and more racially destructive then communism.
I discovered that South Africa, in 1922, had a rebellion of White miners, to create a White supremacist society and prevent england from firing all the white miners and replacing them with blacks. and it was lead by the south african communist party, the leader of which, Bill Andrews, was a dedicated White nationalist and racialist, and their slogan was "workers of the world unite, for a white south africa".
I discovered that in 1993, as the soviet union was falling, communists, nationalists, monarchists and several neo nazi groups in russia came together and created a single party, the national salvation front, that would try to keep the soviet union from collapsing, would support pan-slavic ultranationalism, would embrace extreme right social policies, and far left economics, and would be led by a red army general who called himself a "Nationalist-communist".
Then I discovered, that the origins of Nazism and fascism.... are in Marxism, that marxists created fascism and nazism, as more nationalistic forms of communism.
And then I discovered, that everything I hate, the gross nigger loving liberal woke shit.... communists did not create it, and that "cultural marxism" is just made up bullshit. what we call woke, or cultural marxism, was created by a group of jews that fled germany and moved to the USA, who HATED Stalin, and hated the Soviet Union, and that they were pushed into prominence, not by the soviets as part of a plot to destroy "the west" as I always believed.... but by the CIA, which wanted to neutralize western communists and make it impossible for them to align with the soviet union. https://www.thephilosophicalsalon.com/the-cia-the-frankfurt-schools-anti-communism/
and that instead, the soviets considered "western communists" to be anti-communist, and began supporting far right movements all over Europe because left wing movements were considered useless. and that today, Russia still funds all the major far right groups.
So you see, everything I ever wanted, the communists did it, and of it became impossible for me to hate them
Wow, I was not aware of all of this information. Firstly, sorry that you had to go through that with the NSM. When your own brothers turn on you, and furthermore give info to the enemy. That is treacherous, utter betrayal. It's very upsetting that so many in the movement do this, its like they have no conscience or integrity. Harold Covington summed it up best when he talked about the character issue, it's a real problem.
I also want to add that I was unaware that Germans raped soviets, I thought it was banned by the Reich. This is upsetting, and I want to add that its wrong no matter which side does it, I was unaware that happened and that is evil. I thought the Reich had ore honor than that. That is quite blackpilling to be honest.
Do you think the Holocaust is exaggerated? Or completely wrong? I've seen good arguments by revisionists and I'm of the opinion that it wasn't 6 million. Despite that, it doesn't mean that the NatSoc's didn't do bad things, like what you mentioned.
Do you think Hitler was overall honorable in his actions? Did he condemn what some of his own men were doing?
It's interesting that the South African Communist party was once led by a pro-White man, I did not know this. As now it is completely anti-White with the 'kill the boer' chants from the niggers.
Belarus sounds like a beautiful country, its good that they are against the modern woke libtard system.
Thanks again, I appreciate this discussion.